Originally Posted by
Chip
PS
If anyone ever says
"Bhp is good for down the pub, but torque wins races" ignore them as they havent got a fucking clue so are just trying to sound clever repeating random old american sayings with no basis in fact for most forms of motorsport

EXACTLY!
Was it shelby that first said it?
BHP sells car's torque win's races.
Worse thing is, it's always the "no it all's moto".
F1 car's have less torque than my grandad's diesel, but i know which would be quicker.
The only advantage or torque IMO is you don't have to drive it as hard, i.e. can be in wrong gear and it's more forgiving.