imo the problem was more likely to be at your end.

but its physically impossible to judge ve 100% over the phone....every engine is going to be different

saying that my msd off the shelf chips were perfect, the last dyno run i did the guy thought it had been live mapped, as the fuelling was so precise.... he was quite shocked when i told him otherwise...squeezed every single last drop of power from my t34 aswell





you say £500 for a live map is expensive? personally i dont agree.

a chip off the shelf is £250 from almost anywhere, more if you need a board aswell.

it takes alot of time to perfect a map, checking/adjusting cold start maps in the morning to ensure they are perfect...the car will be there a week....during the map you also get a full setup....checking gapping sensors etc.....then the cost of the equipment to do it.......


manfacturers spend millions on testing /mapping....by comparison, with all things taken into account i think its good value from msd.....near enough isnt good enough, and it takes time to go the extra mile...this is where others fall short imo..

i take it your aftermarket ecu is not being mapped live then? or on the dyno? as you seem to disagree this is better, and would have cured your problem....
if your map is £250ish as you said, how much work do you expect actually gets done for that? ready in 1 day?


do you expect people to work for nothing?

ps, not an arse licker, just a very very happy customer who has tried many alternatives in the past.