As you know i had to sell my 8 MR cus of a family illness, we'd got the car on a FP Green turbo, forged engine, antilag etc and it dynod @ 443atf 446ft.lb.

Right, since i've had the saff back it feels ALOT quicker than the Evo did, it's near on 40 bhp up on the Evo atw though cus of the 4wd transmission losses and it's 200 or kg lighter.

Agreed yes, b roads it'd be struggling against the MR but my point is,Dingy needs a fairly big bhp Evo to compare to his MK 2...

Just my 2 peneth worth.........