been to my painters and he says nothing has touched it 100% the paint it too shinny etc its 100% caused from behind the paint. He belives the bumper to be creased and after he showed me you can clearly see he is right. The line then follows this crease...

he said more likey the heat and it being black has forced it to lift away and then harden again. this is coming from someone who would be getting the work if i had to pay for it!

been back to the stealers where the guy luck puzzled that i had returned. I had to wait 40 mins like whilst he was out on lunch! off he went to ring his body shop as i informed him i hadn't heard anything since. guess what bodyshop man is off for his lunch now!

told him i had been to 2 bodyshops and both said the same thing and that it was a defect with the bumper. Even though the "after Sales manager" admitted bodywork wasn;t really his thing! he was right etc etc....

Decided to go to the next local dealers and try there! much better service but sadly same result, they seam to think i have washed the car with a steamer and burnt my own car by doing so pmsl. i have some how managed to burn the actually plastic not the paint! yest the paint is all intact. At least they took some pics and sent it off to honda uk for a claim but told me they will reject it...

just have to wait for the phonecall and go from there i guess, great aftercar for a £30k car!