micky.hand on heart no bung fella.and as for taking mankind lightly that is something i would never do as i said ive yet to use my brakes in anger and god forgive if that day comes im confident they wont let me down ,i do my research thoroughly and have not heard anyone having brake failure with them if one person had said theirs had failed obviously my opinion would be different.you obviously have had bad experiences.but i can only go on what i know.regards artie