yes i Agree Neil. Its definately a tough lesson for me (well my wallet). And they are a jap tuner but dennis is not. He is supposed to knwo what he is doing so im hoping he will get on the thread when he gets the chance and let me know that 8:1 is fine or that it isnt 8:1.

Thing is Joe Knows his stuff and so does Ahmed/mark. And they are saying its no good at 8:1.