ok ive done some digging around

2 hard drives are sata but not raid
2 hard drives are ide

i unplugged the two ide ones and the pc started fine

plugged one back in (the one i was hoping was still working) and agai it started fine

so it seems drive E the oldest drive in there was starting to fail and bring the whole pc down with it

does this seem feasable ? as the pc is running perfect again now lol

only prob is drive E is what i had all my porn on

matt