most clubs are in it for the money thats the problem i didnt renew my rsoc membership when it ran out years ago because most of them were wankers was only a select few that was sound plus i didnt feel you got much for your money so i moved to another club that was ran by a propper sound geezer but he handed it down to someone else and straight away the membership price jumped up and it turned into a wank club in general a great earner for the new owners though so i left that one and now dont bother