i think mr dogsmoke has a very valid point there, and i agree, the cars of today from ford will not match the 4 wheel drive power cars of the japs and there reliability is also a question to the jap cars, but i personnally believe it is the fact that they were the cream of the crop in there day and only made in limited numbers that keeps thenm desirable. also clubs like this that really helps keep them alive, no meets no forums people would not be arsed i dont think