cheers mate but the engine earths seem ok i checked em on saturday. theres no power getting to the starter motor relay or intercooler pump relay but the relays work and the start button is working its a mystery!! its odd because the wiring diagram shows it coming straight from the battery through a 30 amp fuse and thats fine. the wiring diagram shows 2 pcm's (power control modules) i think it might be something to with 1 of them but god knows where they are. fords said its probably my ecu im not impressed!!!!