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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GTechR
Can we just get a few things straight please...

Someone asked - RichW I think why we deliver at a Loss? I have already tried to explain this

I'm sorry but it’s very very nieve, to think any other company would do a better job. The mail that comes thru your door is delivered at a loss, and for that single reason 80% of all UK mail will always be delivered by Royal mail, the problem is that eventually 50% of the mail will be collected from large users by a third party, ie:TNT (dutch national carrier) Dutchepost (german national carrier) and lots of smaller companies such as UK mail, they can collect the mail from the large users and they can undercut royal mail, they can then take the mail to a royal mail sorting office and we have to deliver it (at a loss) there is NO profit what so ever in delivering the mail, especially the mail you and I send thru the post. All the "competition" do is the middle bit you dont see... You may find in Large Cities the competition may deliver business post due to the logistics (the other 20%), but normal everyday mail? I'm affraid your stuck with royal mail, and as long as the government allow the unfair "competition" the service will deteriate, until eventually the only people employed by Royal mail will be Immigrants etc, that dont give a fuk about the wage, conditions etc or indeed the job
I think that explains it, but if you want me to disect that further i'm quite happy too...

Again RichW asked why TNT now have the Amazon Contract? I reality they only collect it, we STILL delliver it!!!

Just to try to explain it, basically the UK is dictated to by Europe, they say the Royal mail can't have a monopoly, ok fair play, make royal mail a NON PUBLIC company let them do as they please and let them fight on a level playing feild with the competition... Only thats not what Happens, UK Government, set up Postcom, they say that the mail system has to be de regulised and other companies are now allowed to collect and deliver mail, only they can charge what they like, royal mail however are not allowed too, they have to charge what Postcom dictate, so when TNT for instance go to Amazon and say we will do you a deal at "X" amount for a service, that company says, "ok thats cheaper than Royal mail" you have the contract, but the TNT are allowed under the postcom regulations to take the mail to Royal mail, and we have to deliver it for the price that Postcom says we have to, so in effect we ARE delivering the TNT mail for LESS than cost...

On the continent however, there governments have not allowed this to happen, so the national post carriers of there respective countries, they still have a monopoly...

They are allowed to dictate the price to us over here and they dictate the price over here.

As I think almost every posty has said it's NOT about the money, we all accept that things have to change, but it's they way the company is making the changes, that are the problem, the staff is being railroaded, they have been trod further and further into the shit until it's got too a point where they are saying enough is enough.

I sympathise with people who are mad that the posies are striking, but surley to a degree you are contadicting yourselves by slagging us off, and then saying you want your mail... WE WANT to deliver your mail, WE WANT to have it to you before you go to work, but it's the MANAGEMENT that say we cant.

Royal mail need to have cost effective staffing in order to compete in the sectors of the market that ARE profittable that you are moaning about other companies taking off you though

On one hand you are moaning that the other companies are making money out of certain sectors of the market that you are squeezed out of and yet you wont let the management make changes so they can compete in those sectors?

I dont understand your logic at all there its such a contradiction!
(but at least you put forward a structured argument so fair play for that rather than just stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum like retro al )
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