Keep yer hair on m8, your probably right , i was only trying to prevent the guy having the same embarassing thing happen to him as happened to me........I was also told that ET35-40 would fit straight on my saf so i bought the wheels and had new tyres fitted at a local garage, when the tyre fitters went to put the new rims on my cossie they wouldn't fit .....and i didn't have any spacers handy because i assumed i wouldn't need them felt a right tw4t as you can imagine, worst bit was that the only place near to me that sells wheel spacers is 30 fooookin mile away Fooooookin nightmare