Cheers guys,

The guys van i hit only had minor bumper damage the light clusters did not even break

I showed the two officers what was going on so hopefully it went in there report.

As for my van think its worse than it is, as its mainly crumple zones (sp) that take all the impact?.

Ive passed the guys details on to my insureres who was following me who backs up that he did not see any lights on either which is a bonus.

Not counting my chickens yet as this may drag out for a while