i dissagree the engines are fine in cars its just loaded vans that kills em, my m8 has one gos really well, all my family are mechanics etc i do see a fair few stripped but only for snapped belts and bottom pullys, they are a bit plasticy inside but the rides ok, depreciation is moderate, they tend to come in nice colours too, if you can look past the badge there not bad motors, stay away from petrol and auto ones