trouble is. unless you go in a properly set up car, it will never be as good as it can be. obviously.

so if you are looking at a stage one that hasnt been done very well

like a DIY superchip or something, that hasnt been fuel checked etc, then it will be a bit shit, sadly mate.

a proper 280-300 bhp 4x4 saph is pretty good on the road to be honest mate. I know this as thats what mine was