.... right a lad in work is after a new car, he wants something quick, max insurance group 17, can be upto 8k maybe 10 if the right car comes along,

he was looking at type r's but has gone off the idea when he got told about the amount of revving he would have to do to get the power.

i have given him a few ideas like, Asrta Gsi mk4, mk4 gti tdi golf, audi A4 1.8t, St170, and an oddball M5 on a 99plate.

any more ideas of cars?

if you can give the good and bad parts about them thanks