thanks for that danneth, seems that the X1950XT does beat the 8600GTS in the benchies. The one on OcUK is an OC'd 8600GTS so it should score very slightly better than there I should assume. I normally use tomshardware.com for benchies but they haven't got the new nvidias on there yet. As you can see, the 8800GTS wallops them all!