it seems that IF a car has not been taxed in the last few years youdont get a SORN reminder, as in if youd had a car up on bricks in a lockup for some years, it isnt on the new system. but DVLA are sending new logbooks to all people - (mine has arrived and mine has been declared sorn for 15 months now (you do have to renew sorn each year, yes) a lad at our place got a fine for a bike though, he bough off ebay in a cardboard box in bits, transfered it into his name , no sorn not tax though, got a 45 quid fine through (increasing to 80 if not paid within 14 days) to tax the bike for a year its only 35 quid FFS - ANOTHER stealth tax from this marvolous government me thinks...