THAT is what I said, I also said "some can't drive" referring to the EVO.
Just for the record I have driven plenty of EVO's, stiff as hell which was my whole point, an escy is going to struggle against them due to this inherrant stiffness they posses over the older escy design.
I have driven many evo's with this power and that power, they just don't put a smile on my face like even a boggo escy/sierra does, as this demands more driver ability unlike mr electronic evo.
My comments were meant to convey the message that if you can't drive and evo fast you should give up, as I am by noi means the next mr schumacher, but kept up in an astra with soggy std suspension, only mad was T1R's on car.
For the record I think they are overated, but very capable cars, still like a 20 year old cossie though for me, but each to their own and all that.
tabetha