sorry tabetha but i need to set you straight on one thing you have obviously never drove an evo as my dad had an evo 4 which had standard susspension and it pissed all over everything he raced its a case of how they are driven and there definately is no roll or chassis flex cos dey dont budge id rather have an escos cos they aint as common but den r34 skyline but hey we can all dream lol