Originally Posted by iansoutham
Originally Posted by alistairolsen
Riiiight, why woud the monaro have hih maintenance bills? its an unstressed standard ls2 engine?? certainly going to last a lot longer than ANY 2l 4 pot turbo.
The transmission likewise is pretty bulletproff unless you abuse it?
The only issue I see is tyres and petrol tbh cos its a big fast car, like any big fast car.
I find it interesting youd swap one for a gt500 'stang tho, which while being a nice looking car is a total abortio of a design utilising technology first employed int he horse and cart to get around corners. It really is a SHOCKING car.
Your feelings on the particular market sector into which the astra and focus fall is interesting, but largely irellevant to this discussion im afraid, and if the worst you can come up with is "the rear windows too small" then go and buy a people carrier, as ALL modern mid size hatchbacks are pish by comparison to those of yesteryear.
Unless you abuse it!!! A VXR is brought normally by people who "abuse" them, a bit like some other types of cars (how many Cossies do you know of that have been abused in their life?).
Horse & cart technology maybe, and yes, time has moved on, but it WORKS!!! You have to drive the car, not the car drive you. And a 'Stang is more of a drivers car than a VXR or FRS EVER will be!!!
And I would still have a Vectra VXR over an Astra VXR

, @ least they are "sensibly" quick.
Depends on your definition of abused. The T56 will be fine unless you do 6 grand launches at the pod regularly, theres a massive difference between hard driving and mechanical abuse.
And no, live axles dont work, theyre in the same league as carbs, there is just no reason to use them nowadays