Originally Posted by dojj
i think you are missing the point here
vauxhall, instead of trying to figure out a way to tame the pwoer and torque from their engines (which are fairly good and probably that little bit better than the ford usints at most times) they have not bothered
whereas ford have kept the power the same sort of levels with the st as opposed to the rs but the torque has gone up across the range because of the extra 300 cc and cylinder, therefore making the driveability that much better
in the astra it's all or nothing, with the st it's a liniear power delivery which makes things much smoother and less snappy, even thought they are just as quick as each other in the real world straight line stakes
If Vauxhall have done such a bad job of the handling of the Astra compared to the Ford (in your opinion) then explain the times of both cars on Millbrooks west circuit as tested by EVO this month (in the wet may I hasten to add which is certainly an interesting prospect in any high powered FWD car
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Astra VXR
Stability On - 1.38.25
Stability Off - 1.40.65
Cornering G - 0.71
Focus ST
Stability On - 1.42.15
Stability Off - 1.43.30
Cornering G - 0.70
In fact the ST was the slowest of all hot hatches tested. Now i'm not having a pop at the ST as its a fine car. Its more a case of explaining to you that you need to get your facts straight as oposed to letting your feelings do the talking.