Originally Posted by dojj
yes, my mate works at the vauxhall dealer just down the road and i tend to get a "test drive" with him in most of the newer motors (gong back as far as having a pootle in a lotus carlton as well
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Well then you'll know that they don't pull the steering out your hands on acceleration and they do actually go round corners as well as the similar competition.
Originally Posted by dojj
i somehow dooubt that even jc could get the stig to power understeer into a cameraman, no matter how much he hates them cars
You can make any high power FWD car regardless of make/model do the same thing by mashing the pedal to the carpet mid corner
Originally Posted by dojj
the problem has always been the same with fwd vauxhalls, they have too much torque and it totaly overpowers the chassis
the 1.8 sri cavalier was fine, but even the 2.0 ones went mad at the wheels, and when you had a whole huge 130 brake pushing through the front wheels and you had no idea where you were going because it ust went where it wanted to go when you pressed the loud pedal....
things haven't changed with the letest generation vectra's either, either there is to much power or the traction control would kick in way to harshly
my mate had one for a few weeks which seemed to be better, but they just can't get the power down
put bigger and bigger tyres on it by all means, but it doesn't mask the problem that you have too much power going through the front wheels
Again that can be said for any FWD platform. The market is calling for more power/faster cars so its up to the manafacture's to try and make it work on the road hence having all the electronics etc. To restrict/limit power etc is one of the methods available to do this. Funnily enough you and TG both seem to slag off the Vectra VXR and yet EVO magazine report on it quite favourably even against the 4WD oposition. Personally I know who's opinion I respect more....
Everyone to their own and being this is Ford based site I can understand you brand loyalty, but we can all agree that high power through FWD its not going to make the best handling car in the world. Its just a shame that all the manafacture's are still going this route (I expect for cost reasons) I mean isn't the ST gonna have 280bhp. Now you can't honestly tell me that this is gonna be a great handling car based on your comments above
