its same either way, i can rev it at astandstill and itll rev fine, then pull away at part throttle and it misses and loses all power. so u have to full throttle to pull away. if that makes sense? in other words doesnt matter if drivin or sittin still and itll accelerate perfect on full throttle but nothin less. sorry if im bein a pain in the arse, im normally pretty good wiv cars but this has got me stumped. think im gonna have to change idle control valve anyway as once its warmed up a bit it badly hunts and occasionally stalls now. cheers