you should try driving a shitbox sierra with a welded diff in the pissing rain - thats a pant stainer at the best of times, even when your not trying to drift the thing.

i done a drfit event on friday with a few others off here in it and it was ace fun, on the way home tho me and stav both nearly binned our cars going into a service station, slight right hander but fook me the cars went and not even trying