My Saph is not entirely standard in the handling stakes (Coilovers, thicker ARB, Adjustable TCAs, R888s etc), my M3 is totally stock. For a factory car it drives and grips at the front superbly, but the back is a bit tail happy (no traction control AT ALL).

I have Pirelli P Zero Rosso on the front (ACE TYRE) and Kumho Ecstas on the back - (Budget big tyres)--- Fitted by the previous owner and deffo not my choice.

However I can't blame the slide on the car - I was going too quickly.

It does handle well, I just need to learn how to handle IT!

The Cossie on the other hand I just throw around and hoof it, and it goes pretty much where I point it, hence why I love 4x4.

Si