Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan B
Originally Posted by Graceland
Or stop being a tight arse and subscribe to an unlimited package

Tiscali are doing a good offer at the moment
There are very few decent ISPs out there that can actually continue to offer a true unlimited package, I think AOL are the only ISP that are offering a true unlimited package (not checked to see if there's a fair-usage policy attached with it). I know Tiscali fail on two counts, in my opinion, in that a) their unlimited package comes with a VERY savage fair-usage policy (maximum you can download in a day), and b) they're bloody awful with outsourced non-UK tech-support.

With the introduction of MaxDSL/LLU, and the ability to provide ADSL faster than 2Mbps, companies have started to realise that letting people have an up-to-8Mbps connection (allowing downloads at speeds up to 1MB/sec), for a price in the region of £15-25 per month, and then saying people can download as much as they want, means they're not going to be in business for very long if even a small percentage of their customers take them up on their word and try to download the internet in one go.

Given the price for a 622Mbps BT central pipe, when CBC-pricing was introduced, was £137,730 (and I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed much since then), you're looking at a cost of roughly £220 per 1Mbps of bandwidth. So, if you assume that an 8Mbps user is downloading full-speed for the entire month, that's a potential cost to the ISP of roughly £1,760 for that month. Also, bear in mind that, for that pipe to not become congested, you could only fit 75 users (leaving a margin of bandwidth spare) onto it, meaning that each of those users would be costing the ISP £1,836 per month. Factor onto that price the cost for IP-transit connectivity, the price of the equipment used to create the customer-network, any support-contracts for this equipment (believe me, they're not cheap), the cost to supply the staff to design, build, and maintain that network, the support-staff to assist customers with issues, running costs for the buildings involved, utility bills, land-rent, and so on.

So, would you be willing to pay up to £2,500 per month for a truly unlimited DSL connection? If not, and you'd rather pay £15-25 per month but still download the internet every month, then you're going to be a serious loss-maker to your ISP......they'll either have to introduce download-limits, increase their prices drastically, or rely on having many low-usage customers to offset your download-habits.

Well, that post ended up being slightly longer than I planned......thanks for reading, if you made it this far!
Dan,

I an only ging to comment on your slight inaccuracy with TIscali. Its time of the day that the Fair User Policy comes in not how much you D/L throughout the day. 6-11pm is when you have to abide by the FUP rules.I am now on my 2nd warning during the FUP period. My next warning means Tiscali will control my bandwidth for me during the FUP period. So now i just leave bit torrent running from when i wake up till 6 pm when i shut it off You are right abut their tech-support though. fucking useless
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