Evening guys, cheers for all the comments.

ive given it another go at starting without the shelf in and again it wouldnt start so im deffo thinking that its down to iffy wiring, the silver relay box is it hard to crack open and check it at all? never done this so what can i expect when i do?

to be honest though some of the wiring is shocking and wouldnt susprise we in the least if its shorting somewhere. ive got two weeks off in novemeber though so i think ill do the work then but if its dry this weekend ill start on the relay.

Might invest in a full re wire though so i know its all solid. ho hum

ill keep updating till its sorted guys, thanks again

Pete