mate of mine has a zetec s who, is also flip2k3s mate and i think ben u would agree daves car could piss over most coz of the area we live in with country roads etc its not about top speed etc. and with his coilovers on it, its gotta be one the bet handling cars ive ever been in. ok, it wouldnt win if u were straight line top speed run down the a12 but how often is that the case. i reckon theyre bloody nippy for what they are. a great all round car imo