noprobs hen i thought you were being funny i'll have to find a way to modify the bumper i just posted a thread and it just seemed like people were being funny will have to see what my friend can do for me my missus wants me 2 sell the fiesta and get a cossie after going in my mates sierra 4*4 the other day, but i told her you sell your focus and you buy one she soon changed her mind then its going to be tuned next month as soon as i run the engine in tony at turbo technics is gooing to tune it for me see what power its putting out as it was running 190.1 with a fucked turbo and fucked bottom end, cheers sassy for your advice good luck with the fiesta