Originally Posted by markk
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by markk
mike you stick to your 'specialised' subject, i will stick to mine, you have a road car, i have a competition car. if i want a road engine i will come and see you, if you want a competition engine, you come and see me

So why do you keep commenting on the effects on a restricted rally car engine as if they are going to apply equally to an unrestricted road engine then?
Dont get me wrong, i find your information interesting, but it does seem weird that you cant seem to notice just how much of the charateristics of your engines are there because of the restrictor.
If you look at what toyota did without the restrictor (more power higher up the rev range) you will get a glimpse of what would happen if manufacturers were allowed to remove them.
rewind to the beggining of the thread and have a look at the title, my engine is mapped for with and wthout restrictor, mike then proceeded to say that without race fuel it wont last ten mins

its good to read pal

But your comments since then have all based around the characteristics of rally engines which are specced FOR the resitrictor.
Your engine is a restrictor specced engine that you then run without the restrictor and have mapped it to make the best of a bad job in that respect.
If your car was being designed for road fuel and no restrictor, then it would either be lower CR or would make peak power higher in the rev range, or a bit of both.
You seem to be taking your own engine spec out of context
Just cause it copes ok without the restrictor and on normal fuel at that CR you seem blind to how much different it could be in those circumstances if the rest of the design wasnt compromised for such a specfic competition use.