Cheers fella's. A fairly comprehensive review there ! Hey Thrush, Ever think of bang'n a cv into top gear magazine ?? Bit of a motoring reviewer in you i'd say. LOL CheeRS Bud. They do give a small bit of bother then and they sound as if they're not much lighter on juice than the hiakie. I'll have to test drive one. In fairness to the hiace in the 4 years i have it all i had to change was drop link bushes and brake pads. Not bad eh. Pity cozzies aren't the same.