i know mate but trouble is my local garage wont touch it as its a zetec turbo it custom fabricated.

unsure What management is it running rich said it might be in passenger side footwell so im going to have a look there today.

had a quick look this morning and did notice on the coilpack plug 2, one if them is corroded its green i tryed cleaning it but its a bugger to clean also cleaned the ht lead dident really make a diffrence in starting, so think im going to get a new coilpack, ht leads, plugs, and also drain the fuel as i think its been sitting long time,

DogSmoke i know mate, this being my first zetec turbo, but i guess we all have to start someware right mate.