i tryed a set of tsw hocks on my s1,these were 8 x 17" with 205 tyres. although my car is lower than most,it drove like a bag of sh*t. the wheels rubbed on full lock,and scrubed the arches like a bitch.and my rear arches have been professionally rolled as far as they can go.THEY ARE JUST TOO WIDE.with my 17" voodoos i never once heard them scrubb(even when fully loaded giving it plenty round corners!!!) I WOULD GIVE THEM A MISS MATE!!!!!!!