Mine was £200 second hand (ebay) and is a Dell machine. Ain't got a good grx card (on board 64mb card I think) but I upgraded the sound card (optical/digital 5.1 PCI card). It only came with a DVD ROM but I already had a DVD Burner. It was £200 tho for just the tower, mouse and keyboard - no monitor etc... Still I think it was a good deal cos it's the more "business" end Dell stuff (Optiplex) so a bit better specced than the usual home-aimed Dimension series (well, so a bunch of reviews and write ups on the net led me to belive anyway).....