i have looked ate the ignition, i did get told tho that if the indicators where not pluged in then the car wont fire up, but this is only on some ov them, cos its not on mine..hehehe

its defo not the timing, not even touched that side ov it, i really do think that i have shorted sumin out, but what i dont know, i have had all the main things checked????

anyway i think i will kick this auto elec in touch, he is pis***£ in the wind i think, best give it to the guys who know, this camco i was talking about they can test everything, but they highly priced....anyway thanks alll