tony discribe short period of time
a car thats had NO mot for 18 months would also have no tax

and so i doubt there is ANY form of insurance
now SHOW ME PROOF of SOMEONE YOU ACTUALLY KNOW whos had a first time offence fine of that nature
i know of alot of people being done for 30 quid,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1 for a car that expired 5 months earlier
you sure your not quoting the guide lines and not whats actually happened ????
serious question as mine IS from experience
i also got a 100 quid fine and 9 points for doing 64 average in a 30 with a car that had no insurance and i never had a licence adn iw as 300 miles from home
tbh i thought the offence was very very leanient considering the circumstances ,,,,,,,,,,,,, the insurance on the car was 2k the cheepest quote i got too
dont get me wrong, im not proud NOR would i ever do suh a thing a gain, we all do things when where young, i just went further than most
thats why im wondering where your info comes from ????