wellput it this way it's got 17" wheels on it and all the time i spent repainting the original koni shocks and springs in original paint orange shocks and the springs black he went and lowered it 30mm after he promised me he would leave it stanard that's the only reason i sold it to him so the mk4 plastic inner arches i maid fit are probbally in a ditch somewhere as well i loved that car and still do