hey guys thanks for the advice... and thanks for the offer dave, havent got one yet tho! but i may PM u if its still available? whereabouts ru?

I'm not looking for an amazing stereo, as im not going to put any other sound system stuff in literally just want a cd player etc... and i didnt like the look of the pioneer and kenwood (such a girl i know) but the spec didnt seem that much different?

if i spent £150 on a kenwood, would you be able to tell the difference in sound to a £150 alpine? with no other equipment?

thanks for your help xx