Originally Posted by Oranoco
Originally Posted by JimmyBoy
There seems to be a bit of snobbery when it comes to dump valves, alot of people will say they make a "gay" sound, but you find that they will rave about "chatter" which also makes a gay sound.
Oh well!

What complete tosh. THere is large difference between chatter and a DV. Chatter is the sound of the compressed charge air being passed back through the turbo's blades. You don't buy anything to get the gay noise as you put it. With a DV you have actually parted with £80 or so to make it sound like a bus.
I'd rather be gay with chatter than gay and poorer with a DV
Your misunderstanding me. You think that you are the mutts nutts with your "chatter" but think that someone with a DV likes to take it up the arse. My point being, they both make a noise when changing gear, and yes they are different, but to the uneducated it is just going to be a noise and your just going to get comments like "look at that twat", people in the know may hear it and get on thier knees and praise you, but for the majority of people you are just going to get disrespectful looks.
And then there is the old debate of how good / bad each are for the car, which will open a can of worms. Chatter is just "compressor stall" which although probablly isnt going to do much harm to your turbo in the short term, if you are running high boost, it's only going to be a matter of time until your turbo gives up the ghost and lets go because of the compressor blades being forced to stall to give that "chatter" sound.
A DV may / may not give running problems, I know of many people who say the car is a lot better without one on, and people who say they have no problems with one. Installing a DV is in no way going to harm your turbo, as its very purpose is to stop compressor stall (which is what gives you chatter) and keep the turbo spinning, hence not putting the turbo under any unneccessary stress. I know there is a lot of debate about whether it actually makes any difference in performance or not, but this is not my point.
A long story short - people like different things. If someone likes there DV then fine, let them keep it. If someone likes chatter, let them keep that too. Just because one person likes one but not the other, doesnt mean they need to try and convert everybody to the one that they like. Its down to personal preference.