Cheers for your replies chaps.
Adam

seems to be the one thing i forgot to mention when asking before was the fact that i was on standard rims
James - I was working on the fact that the coz came wiv 15" rims, just never took the fact that the cos came with 205's on and not 195's

Oh well we live and learn

And as for 16's, no way!!

15's for me, wanna keep it sheep in wolf overcoat if ya see what i mean
Blakeya - I 'was' getting the correct bells and rotors off of Mr Rainbird so i had no need for washers and i tried mounting the wheel with the calliper where it is and there was still no clearence to fully bolt the rim up, if i put the calliper onto where you say i should would there not be even less clearence?