Yup, they have got a 10db profile as well... or for people who have got Netgear GT routers...there is a patch to manually specify your own target SNR... so you can play about and find the optimum settings for your line...

I know I'll probably be moaning in a couple of days about my net being down... but it's a pilot... i'm expecting it...and since sorting out my faceplate...I really can't fault the service...

If they can't sort out my issue with the speedtouch being able to set up a DMZ..I'll just go out and get the Belkin ADSL2+ router..as that has some favourable reviews on early ADSL2+ tests...