Already posted, thanks for the pointer though! I dont have alot of time on my hands so i thought post in a few different places might help get a better response. But the bolt thing is doing my head and hands in i barely got any skin left on my knuckles becuase i can't get the fookers to turn or if im doing it the right direction. Why arent they simple an logical like ford engines, compaired to when i change the head gasket on my zetec thats a doddle in comparison!