Thanx for the replies folks,i just wanted an idea what they were going to be like cos if ev 1 said they were totally sh1te i obviously wouldnt buy, and i know ev1 will say they are crap compared to powflex but for the money as long as they are better than O.E thats all that matters to me,Are power flex really worth the money?does power flex really make that much difference for road use?if i was buildin a track car maybe i would need P.Flex but i think the deflex will do me