heres one place that sells them new

http://www.caraudiodiscount.com/acat...onent.html#top

and here is a spec on them

http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Focal_165_V

ill take £130 posted for them which is a bargain. they were only used for about 2 months and then taken out the car , car got sold and they sat in the bedroom since!