Cosworth 4x4 into a 1972 Mini - Page 3

m4tt274 · 19-12-2009, 03:26 PM

i im all for a mini cosworth but it would keep cozmeister happy to sell the cossy shell with documents etc after nicking the running gear and with the money buy a GL or something cheap and use the floor pan from that and sell the rest of the bits as spares. floor pans the same, just means someone can use ur shell as a reshel.

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kmol468 · 19-12-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4tt274

i im all for a mini cosworth but it would keep cozmeister happy to sell the cossy shell with documents etc after nicking the running gear and with the money buy a GL or something cheap and use the floor pan from that and sell the rest of the bits as spares. floor pans the same, just means someone can use ur shell as a reshel.

I know, i did think about doing this, but wasnt sure if there were any differences between the two, that would later cause me problems. In the process of researching this I was offered a saph cossie and it would have been rude to turn it down. Plus that only meant 3 cars on the drive rather than 4, if i was to get a GL aswell. (and my drive isnt that big!)

Anyhow my wheels arrived - pictures:

and some comparison as to how wide they are.

andy escos · 19-12-2009, 04:47 PM

chopping a base model would be better seems ashame to cut up a perfectly good rust free cossy there quiet rare nowa days

as for differences between shells there is not a lot in it i used a base model for my 4x4 mk2 escort easy to mod keeps kosmeister happy

love your plan though keep the updates coming .

turbolee · 19-12-2009, 05:15 PM

looks a good project hope it all works out to plan should be amazin fun to drive

chameleon · 19-12-2009, 06:54 PM

just a quick idea on the arch's mate,we used to use 4x steel trailor arch's cut the lip off one side then bend to fit arch then weld side skirts to each side will make it nice and strong'but you will have to throw that fibre glass front end away.....not a bad idea imo............be interesting to see my mate put a full race pinto in his but everytime he tryed to put the power on,it used to go round in circle's lol........good luck...........................

kmol468 · 30-12-2009, 06:30 PM

Hello again, I popped into the garage today to drop the wheels off and i took a couple of pictures while i was there....

Its shortened the required length and so hopefully at some stage soon it will start looking like one mini with a cosworth in it rather than two cars as they are at the moment.

Still on the list of things to get are - fuel system & fittings, (thinking areoquip thoughout), brakes calipers to clear the wheels, inlet manifold, intercooler and rad and their fittings, breather set-up (aeroquip fittings again), ..... not to mention all the tedious stuff to sort out like fibreglass doors, perspex, re-wire, headlights, indicators, remap, etc etc

I didnt want to make a list of it all as I dont want to be put off by how much still needs to be done/money to be spent, but hey its the same for anyone with a project!!

cossiejsy · 30-12-2009, 06:58 PM

good project and should be nice when finished mate

m4tt274 · 30-12-2009, 07:02 PM

if u need to some brakes that will clear the wheels, if ur on a budget the xr4x4 brakes are the same as the cossy 4x4 ones but are 260mm instead of 280mm. The mini is so light, i dont think it would cook them.

melspec1 · 30-12-2009, 07:10 PM

Nice one mate, its nice to see mad project going on...

jon_ross · 30-12-2009, 07:22 PM

i agree with cozmeister. it wont handle, seen it done b4 it was and is shite, also we kinda like cossies here so to some people on here what ur doing is petty much the same as walking into a vet and cutting up a dog,

also y a rusty mini y not match the cossie and get a mint or brand new( you can get them) mini shell its the least u could do for the saph

sorry mate not normally negative but this one just pissed me off, best get it done and do it well for the saph's sake

RichieST · 30-12-2009, 08:02 PM

Good work mate, of course its your car so its up to you what you do to it. Perhaps if you started chopping around a minty mint RS500 then I would change my tune, but a couple of grand's of old taxi, hardly the end of the world!

andy.mac · 30-12-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich170

Good work mate, of course its your car so its up to you what you do to it. Perhaps if you started chopping around a minty mint RS500 then I would change my tune, but a couple of grand's of old taxi, hardly the end of the world!

well said it just makes my old taxi worth more

kaisersolsay · 30-12-2009, 11:37 PM

I must admit it was the guilt of breaking a perfectly good 4x4 Saph that lead me to sell it complete and opt to purchase the parts seperately. There arent that many on the road nowadays and I didnt want to contribute to taking another off the road. That said I sold it to Andrew Gallagher and I believe he chopped it up for his Ford Connect project! Oh well at least I have no blood on my hands!!

scarnny · 07-01-2010, 09:09 PM

hi just red your thread good luck mate seems you pissed a few people off i got all my bits separately so no car got killed in the process.
your doing 4x4 mine is rwd i was told that because of short wheel base 4wd is a hindrance in cornering you may want too look into this as for up the strip 4wd must be help i would think.
your going with 350bhp im gonna start with 280 and see how i get on with that im thinking that sometimes less is more wheel spin maybe a problem with these beasts dont you think.

lovin your work mate keep it up its good to find someone as made as me.

DHMC · 07-01-2010, 09:22 PM

cant wait to see this progress!! I have wanted a mini for time.. Man I want this sooo bad.

kaisersolsay · 07-01-2010, 09:29 PM

Hi mate, who did I piss off? I'm not with you.....?

scarnny · 07-01-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisersolsay

Hi mate, who did I piss off? I'm not with you.....?

sorry didnt mean you ment for klmo468

WENNY · 07-01-2010, 10:54 PM

just cos he chopped a old taxi up

steve st220 · 07-01-2010, 11:14 PM

its totally insane but i like it, shame the cossie was in such good nick.

Evey · 07-01-2010, 11:32 PM

wow, gonna be awesome! will keep an eye out

spaceframemini · 08-01-2010, 12:09 AM

when you need the wheel arches give me a pm as i have got a set of miglia style extra wide arches that might fit in the garage that i had made for my spaceframe mini

kmol468 · 09-01-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spaceframemini

when you need the wheel arches give me a pm as i have got a set of miglia style extra wide arches that might fit in the garage that i had made for my spaceframe mini

Thanks for the offer and i might take you up on it dependant on exactly how far the wheels stick out. At the moment the suspension is being looked into/designed so will PM you as an when I know the specs.

rickbartlett · 09-01-2010, 03:35 PM

kmol468

nice meeting you today mate,good luck with the project.its in good hands at rs fabrications

Rs Gus · 16-01-2010, 05:55 PM

its only a old sierra i dont see the problem to be honest

kmol468 · 28-06-2010, 09:53 PM

Blimey 6 months have passed and its still not done......however it is getting there, just a few more months maybe......

conor.rst · 28-06-2010, 09:55 PM

its gunna be insane

COLEYST200 · 28-06-2010, 10:05 PM

I like that mate

johnnycos · 28-06-2010, 10:08 PM

1 word...............................SAVAGE lol!!!!!

Kverna · 28-06-2010, 10:23 PM

That looks nuts

miller3 · 28-06-2010, 10:25 PM

that is looking pretty damn cool

scarnny · 29-06-2010, 07:43 AM

Very nice mate. Your going to need a big set of arches is that the cosworth track width?

jason_nike · 29-06-2010, 07:53 AM

Should be mental, but fun

carlo · 29-06-2010, 09:31 AM

That loooks amazing

Kam B · 29-06-2010, 10:29 AM

What size are the wheels on the cosworth?

GaryBean · 29-06-2010, 10:54 AM

looking good. carnt wait to see this one going ...

ossie cossie · 29-06-2010, 12:40 PM

thats just awesome.

kmol468 · 29-06-2010, 12:49 PM

Thanks for the words of encouragement all of you. It's taking longer than expected but hey ho!
As for the width, it's standard cosworth width using the same suspension setup (for now) just to get it running. The problem is added by running 9" wide wheels with a negative offset, as I had limited choice.

the mk1 kid · 29-06-2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmol468

Thanks for the words of encouragement all of you. It's taking longer than expected but hey ho!
As for the width, it's standard cosworth width using the same suspension setup (for now) just to get it running. The problem is added by running 9" wide wheels with a negative offset, as I had limited choice.

What a fun project, i cant wait to see and hear about it!

Good luck!

Tom

Kam B · 29-06-2010, 01:18 PM

how much for the cec 129 wheels off the cossie??

are 16s?

smudger068 · 29-06-2010, 04:11 PM

awesome. . . to the amount of cossys that have been chopped up for floorpans for focus's, rwd escorts and other things. I think one more for someone who wanted to do something different and have something unique you have to give credit for...excellent.
pitty cant have more pics of interior fabrication etc etc

19-12-2009, 04:47 PM	#83
andy escos Capt Chaos Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunny Devon Posts: 5,237 Rep Power: 9	chopping a base model would be better seems ashame to cut up a perfectly good rust free cossy there quiet rare nowa days as for differences between shells there is not a lot in it i used a base model for my 4x4 mk2 escort easy to mod keeps kosmeister happy love your plan though keep the updates coming . __________________ 500+BHP 4X4 ZAKSPEED ESCORT GROUP 5 FULL RESTO, SOON TO LOOK LIKE THIS,, TAKE A LOOK AT MY GROUP 5 ZAKSPEED ESCORT REPLICA RESTORATION Clicky

30-12-2009, 06:30 PM	#86
kmol468 I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (6) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 102 Rep Power: 3	Hello again, I popped into the garage today to drop the wheels off and i took a couple of pictures while i was there.... Its shortened the required length and so hopefully at some stage soon it will start looking like one mini with a cosworth in it rather than two cars as they are at the moment. Still on the list of things to get are - fuel system & fittings, (thinking areoquip thoughout), brakes calipers to clear the wheels, inlet manifold, intercooler and rad and their fittings, breather set-up (aeroquip fittings again), ..... not to mention all the tedious stuff to sort out like fibreglass doors, perspex, re-wire, headlights, indicators, remap, etc etc I didnt want to make a list of it all as I dont want to be put off by how much still needs to be done/money to be spent, but hey its the same for anyone with a project!! __________________ 1972 Mini Cosworth Project now underway - http://passionford.com/forum/restora...1972-mini.html

30-12-2009, 06:58 PM	#87
cossiejsy PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: St Helier,Jersey Posts: 7,589 Rep Power: 15	good project and should be nice when finished mate __________________ Dont like my drivin then stop watchin me Jersey Rs Owners Club member of the daytime pf talk bollocks and random shite club #65

30-12-2009, 07:02 PM	#88
m4tt274 PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Doncaster Posts: 3,218 Rep Power: 6	if u need to some brakes that will clear the wheels, if ur on a budget the xr4x4 brakes are the same as the cossy 4x4 ones but are 260mm instead of 280mm. The mini is so light, i dont think it would cook them. __________________ mk1 fiesta restoration! - http://passionford.com/forum/restora...-now-on-d.html

30-12-2009, 08:02 PM	#91
RichieST 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 12,465 Rep Power: 20	Good work mate, of course its your car so its up to you what you do to it. Perhaps if you started chopping around a minty mint RS500 then I would change my tune, but a couple of grand's of old taxi, hardly the end of the world! __________________

19-12-2009, 05:15 PM	#84
turbolee Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 522 Rep Power: 8	looks a good project hope it all works out to plan should be amazin fun to drive

19-12-2009, 06:54 PM	#85
chameleon PassionFord Regular Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: coulsdon Posts: 394 Rep Power: 3	just a quick idea on the arch's mate,we used to use 4x steel trailor arch's cut the lip off one side then bend to fit arch then weld side skirts to each side will make it nice and strong'but you will have to throw that fibre glass front end away.....not a bad idea imo............be interesting to see my mate put a full race pinto in his but everytime he tryed to put the power on,it used to go round in circle's lol........good luck...........................

30-12-2009, 07:10 PM	#89
melspec1 Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: sunderland Posts: 217 Rep Power: 4	Nice one mate, its nice to see mad project going on...

30-12-2009, 07:22 PM	#90
jon_ross PassionFord Regular Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: eastbourne Posts: 400 Rep Power: 3	i agree with cozmeister. it wont handle, seen it done b4 it was and is shite, also we kinda like cossies here so to some people on here what ur doing is petty much the same as walking into a vet and cutting up a dog, also y a rusty mini y not match the cossie and get a mint or brand new( you can get them) mini shell its the least u could do for the saph sorry mate not normally negative but this one just pissed me off, best get it done and do it well for the saph's sake

30-12-2009, 11:37 PM	#93
kaisersolsay PassionFord Regular 2004 Audi RS6 Avant Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 422 Rep Power: 4	I must admit it was the guilt of breaking a perfectly good 4x4 Saph that lead me to sell it complete and opt to purchase the parts seperately. There arent that many on the road nowadays and I didnt want to contribute to taking another off the road. That said I sold it to Andrew Gallagher and I believe he chopped it up for his Ford Connect project! Oh well at least I have no blood on my hands!!

07-01-2010, 09:09 PM	#94
scarnny Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: woolpit Posts: 315 Rep Power: 3	mini rs cosworth hi just red your thread good luck mate seems you pissed a few people off i got all my bits separately so no car got killed in the process. your doing 4x4 mine is rwd i was told that because of short wheel base 4wd is a hindrance in cornering you may want too look into this as for up the strip 4wd must be help i would think. your going with 350bhp im gonna start with 280 and see how i get on with that im thinking that sometimes less is more wheel spin maybe a problem with these beasts dont you think. lovin your work mate keep it up its good to find someone as made as me.

07-01-2010, 09:22 PM	#95
DHMC Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: COVENTRY Posts: 546 Rep Power: 3	cant wait to see this progress!! I have wanted a mini for time.. Man I want this sooo bad.

07-01-2010, 09:29 PM	#96
kaisersolsay PassionFord Regular 2004 Audi RS6 Avant Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 422 Rep Power: 4	Hi mate, who did I piss off? I'm not with you.....?

07-01-2010, 10:54 PM	#98
WENNY I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: HARTLEPOOL Posts: 1,063 Rep Power: 4	just cos he chopped a old taxi up

07-01-2010, 11:14 PM	#99
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07-01-2010, 11:32 PM	#100
Evey Part of the Furniture Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Doncaster Posts: 157 Rep Power: 4	wow, gonna be awesome! will keep an eye out

08-01-2010, 12:09 AM	#101
spaceframemini 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: stockton on tees Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	when you need the wheel arches give me a pm as i have got a set of miglia style extra wide arches that might fit in the garage that i had made for my spaceframe mini

09-01-2010, 03:35 PM	#103
rickbartlett G911 TTA Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2008 Location: warwickshire Posts: 2,825 Rep Power: 6	kmol468 nice meeting you today mate,good luck with the project.its in good hands at rs fabrications __________________ Jamsport 01604 755529 S2 IN SIG NOW WROTE OFF NOW DRIVE BMW 328i E36 CONVERTIBLE AND VAUXHALL ZAFIRA GSI TURBO FAMILY WAGON

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28-06-2010, 09:53 PM	#105
kmol468 I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (6) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 102 Rep Power: 3	Blimey 6 months have passed and its still not done......however it is getting there, just a few more months maybe...... __________________ 1972 Mini Cosworth Project now underway - http://passionford.com/forum/restora...1972-mini.html

28-06-2010, 09:55 PM	#106
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28-06-2010, 10:05 PM	#107
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28-06-2010, 10:08 PM	#108
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28-06-2010, 10:23 PM	#109
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28-06-2010, 10:25 PM	#110
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29-06-2010, 07:43 AM	#111
scarnny Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: woolpit Posts: 315 Rep Power: 3	Very nice mate. Your going to need a big set of arches is that the cosworth track width?

29-06-2010, 07:53 AM	#112
jason_nike Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2,179 Rep Power: 10	Should be mental, but fun

29-06-2010, 09:31 AM	#113
carlo 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ayrshire (the bronx) Posts: 16,049 Rep Power: 23	That loooks amazing __________________ ps3 game tag carlo-ybe If you need cosworth parts contact mark 07548064979 www.mt-motorsport.com

29-06-2010, 10:29 AM	#114
Kam B PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: SLOUGH INIT BRUV!!? Posts: 4,273 Rep Power: 12	What size are the wheels on the cosworth? __________________ The artist formally known as ultimate sleeper No sig until I get a decent car If you oppose them they will come down on you like a ton of bricks and use everything including their media to turn everyone against you. its time to wake up - youtube Absent Justice and watch what really happened...: ( 'even a smile can be charity'

29-06-2010, 10:54 AM	#115
GaryBean I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Essex Posts: 148 Rep Power: 3	looking good. carnt wait to see this one going ... __________________ looking for a track car!!!

29-06-2010, 12:40 PM	#116
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29-06-2010, 12:49 PM	#117
kmol468 I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (6) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 102 Rep Power: 3	Thanks for the words of encouragement all of you. It's taking longer than expected but hey ho! As for the width, it's standard cosworth width using the same suspension setup (for now) just to get it running. The problem is added by running 9" wide wheels with a negative offset, as I had limited choice. __________________ 1972 Mini Cosworth Project now underway - http://passionford.com/forum/restora...1972-mini.html

29-06-2010, 01:18 PM	#119
Kam B PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: SLOUGH INIT BRUV!!? Posts: 4,273 Rep Power: 12	how much for the cec 129 wheels off the cossie?? are 16s? __________________ The artist formally known as ultimate sleeper No sig until I get a decent car If you oppose them they will come down on you like a ton of bricks and use everything including their media to turn everyone against you. its time to wake up - youtube Absent Justice and watch what really happened...: ( 'even a smile can be charity'

29-06-2010, 04:11 PM	#120
smudger068 I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ipswich Posts: 114 Rep Power: 3	awesome. . . to the amount of cossys that have been chopped up for floorpans for focus's, rwd escorts and other things. I think one more for someone who wanted to do something different and have something unique you have to give credit for...excellent. pitty cant have more pics of interior fabrication etc etc

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