Taking a RST gearbox apart (Pictures)(Finished)
06-03-2004, 04:40 PM
#81
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Building a gearbox in Markyate
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Big round one that bolts to the diff. 
Alternatively, strip the gears from the mainshaft and give me the number from under where 1st gear runs.
But probably best to leave the mainshaft together until you have a replacement ready to transfer everything across to
I'm off home now, but will try to get online tomorrow
Alternatively, strip the gears from the mainshaft and give me the number from under where 1st gear runs.
But probably best to leave the mainshaft together until you have a replacement ready to transfer everything across to
I'm off home now, but will try to get online tomorrow
06-03-2004, 06:03 PM
#84
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 3,936
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
and in principle it sounded such a simple job.
replace diff with new ATB diff!!
good luck adam!
is it turned down as its a recon box or something?
replace diff with new ATB diff!!
good luck adam!
is it turned down as its a recon box or something?
06-03-2004, 06:07 PM
#85
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Essex innit bruv
Posts: 7,598
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by richm
No offence to Bernie here - there's some top advice coming from him, bearing in mind he doesn't have to.. 
I'm sure he's got more than enough to do to worry about a couple of DIYer's taking away his business 
I'm sure he's got more than enough to do to worry about a couple of DIYer's taking away his business 
I remember my first gearbox (and my last i might add) that i stripped down to have a look. Ended up getting really pissed off with it and got the crowbar out.
Needless to say i totally mauled it.
Stuck it all back together and stuck it on ebay
07-03-2004, 10:51 AM
#86
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Building a gearbox in Markyate
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
92CA
That's a late tooth pattern 3.82:1
I will be able to help you.
We only use new mainshafts in our Stage 1 and 2 boxes, so I can either sell you a new one, or I might have a used one that will be usable, provided you carry out a big bearing conversion, which does involve some machining to the casing.
You up for it?
Even if you fit a new mainshaft, I'd recommend the big bearing conversion.
That's a late tooth pattern 3.82:1
I will be able to help you.
We only use new mainshafts in our Stage 1 and 2 boxes, so I can either sell you a new one, or I might have a used one that will be usable, provided you carry out a big bearing conversion, which does involve some machining to the casing.
You up for it?
Even if you fit a new mainshaft, I'd recommend the big bearing conversion.
07-03-2004, 11:03 AM
#87
Ex Ford Man
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2003
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 6,725
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yeah, why not !?
Wooohoooo, some good news
So how much am i looking at for the main shaft and big bearings ? Also, are these big bearings just uprated ones or larger ? As i could get the bearings as my uncle owns a company called Redhill Bearings..... http://www.redhillbearings.co.uk/index2.htm
Again, thank you so much Bernie for all the help
Wooohoooo, some good news
So how much am i looking at for the main shaft and big bearings ? Also, are these big bearings just uprated ones or larger ? As i could get the bearings as my uncle owns a company called Redhill Bearings..... http://www.redhillbearings.co.uk/index2.htmAgain, thank you so much Bernie for all the help
07-03-2004, 11:11 AM
#88
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Building a gearbox in Markyate
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Yep.. your right
And now weve both tinkered with enough non related stuff to have learnt when to leave well enough alone eh Bernie?
And now weve both tinkered with enough non related stuff to have learnt when to leave well enough alone eh Bernie?
is it turned down as its a recon box or something?
If you were running a 1300 Fiesta, then it would probably go on for ever, but not in anything with a modicum of torque!
This is, however, why you'll find "recon" gearboxes at such low prices if you look around.
Somebody (no names, no packdrill) suggested the other day that at Ł450.00 +VAT, I was coining it big style with my Stage 1 boxes.
However, when you consider that every Stage 1 box gets a new mainshaft, new crownwheel, rebuilt VC including fresh fluid, all rebuilder parts, plus casing mods involving machining, etc.... I think it's a case of "you gets what you pays for"!
07-03-2004, 11:17 AM
#89
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Building a gearbox in Markyate
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Adam, I'll get some prices together tomorrow at work.
If you're gonna do it, you might as well do it right.
In preparation, you will need to remove the bearing from the case that the mainshaft sits down into.
This will need machining out to a new diameter and depth, details of which I'll post tomorrow.
If you're gonna do it, you might as well do it right.
In preparation, you will need to remove the bearing from the case that the mainshaft sits down into.
This will need machining out to a new diameter and depth, details of which I'll post tomorrow.
07-03-2004, 03:54 PM
#91
gearboxman,
Somebody (no names, no packdrill) suggested the other day that at Ł450.00 +VAT, I was coining it big style with my Stage 1 boxes.
However, when you consider that every Stage 1 box gets a new mainshaft, new crownwheel, rebuilt VC including fresh fluid, all rebuilder parts, plus casing mods involving machining, etc.... I think it's a case of "you gets what you pays for"!
Somebody (no names, no packdrill) suggested the other day that at Ł450.00 +VAT, I was coining it big style with my Stage 1 boxes.
However, when you consider that every Stage 1 box gets a new mainshaft, new crownwheel, rebuilt VC including fresh fluid, all rebuilder parts, plus casing mods involving machining, etc.... I think it's a case of "you gets what you pays for"!
There is so many people out there quoting "Live mapping" who dont even own a fooking emulator or a "REAL" wideband fuel monitor it's fooking untrue.. yet they lie to the customer and quote Ł300ish and give ME a bad name when they did fook all but try different chips till one drive better than his original!!
Im sure, in fact i KNOW its the same in your business.. you do a PROPER recon, and replace anything dodgy, and then get undercut by some twat in a shed at home who just sprayed the gearbox case with a Jetwash then lied to the customer.. and YOU look expensive
Ooppss... rant over.. sorry
for Bernie 
08-03-2004, 12:31 PM
#94
Regular Contributor
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Aberdeen/Flakirk/Gairloch
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Adam, fair play to ya man! 
I was going to strip my Gearbox myself aswell, I even bought the gaskets and new bearings too I then decided that it would do as it is and I'd fix it if it broke!
So basically you coud say i chickened out! LOL
Gearboxman I may well be speaking to you when my box inevitably gives up the ghost!
I was going to strip my Gearbox myself aswell, I even bought the gaskets and new bearings too
I then decided that it would do as it is and I'd fix it if it broke!So basically you coud say i chickened out! LOL
Gearboxman I may well be speaking to you when my box inevitably gives up the ghost!
08-03-2004, 05:44 PM
#95
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Building a gearbox in Markyate
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
OK.
Diameter of the hole will need to be 55mm, and depth 17.5mm
Adam, if you can phone me tomorrow I'll give you the prices.
Can I please stress now:
THIS IS A ONE OFF TO HELP ADAM OUT OF THE SHIT!
PLEASE DON'T CONTACT ME ASKING TO BUY COMPONENTS!
Diameter of the hole will need to be 55mm, and depth 17.5mm
Adam, if you can phone me tomorrow I'll give you the prices.
Can I please stress now:
THIS IS A ONE OFF TO HELP ADAM OUT OF THE SHIT!
PLEASE DON'T CONTACT ME ASKING TO BUY COMPONENTS!
08-03-2004, 06:39 PM
#98
Stu @ M Developments,
There is so many people out there quoting "Live mapping" who dont even own a fooking emulator or a "REAL" wideband fuel monitor it's fooking untrue..
There is so many people out there quoting "Live mapping" who dont even own a fooking emulator or a "REAL" wideband fuel monitor it's fooking untrue..
wow - beware guys !!! this happens on HERE !!!!
if you have seen the real deal being carried out on a car - ( and i have ) then it cant be mistaken for anything else - in fact youd be convinced you could take the steering wheel out , and let stu/kenny just drive it from the passenger seat !!!
08-03-2004, 06:56 PM
#99
Ex Ford Man
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2003
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 6,725
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by gearboxman
OK.
Diameter of the hole will need to be 55mm, and depth 17.5mm
Adam, if you can phone me tomorrow I'll give you the prices.
Can I please stress now:
THIS IS A ONE OFF TO HELP ADAM OUT OF THE SHIT!
PLEASE DON'T CONTACT ME ASKING TO BUY COMPONENTS!
Diameter of the hole will need to be 55mm, and depth 17.5mm
Adam, if you can phone me tomorrow I'll give you the prices.
Can I please stress now:
THIS IS A ONE OFF TO HELP ADAM OUT OF THE SHIT!
PLEASE DON'T CONTACT ME ASKING TO BUY COMPONENTS!
10-03-2004, 09:14 PM
#106
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Just reading through
Was gonna take my fugged one apart but I dont think I'll bother now.
When I broke my box the options were simple.
Pay through the nose or do it myself...
Did it myself- removed the ABS, changed the turbo (dont ask) fitted poly bushes and a new clutch.
I had a recon 'box for 150 quid.. and well the next one I buy will be off Bernie... because it lasted 3 days.
I see you have a track day project going on Adam.. be interested to compare notes and the route you're going.
NUTS- Be in touch soon enough or see you at a show- fancy a trick back end soon I reckon.
Jake
Was gonna take my fugged one apart but I dont think I'll bother now.
When I broke my box the options were simple.
Pay through the nose or do it myself...
Did it myself- removed the ABS, changed the turbo (dont ask) fitted poly bushes and a new clutch.
I had a recon 'box for 150 quid.. and well the next one I buy will be off Bernie... because it lasted 3 days.
I see you have a track day project going on Adam.. be interested to compare notes and the route you're going.
NUTS- Be in touch soon enough or see you at a show- fancy a trick back end soon I reckon.
Jake
11-03-2004, 08:35 AM
#108
Ex Ford Man
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2003
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 6,725
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Shings
I see you have a track day project going on Adam.. be interested to compare notes and the route you're going.
NUTS- Be in touch soon enough or see you at a show- fancy a trick back end soon I reckon.
Jake
NUTS- Be in touch soon enough or see you at a show- fancy a trick back end soon I reckon.
Jake
And i too will be contacting Tony (NUTS) soon for some trick suspension
11-03-2004, 12:21 PM
#112
PassionFord Post Troll
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Finland
Posts: 2,866
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just out of curiosity, when fitting the 55x25x17.5 bearing, is it necessary to weld more material to the other side first, or is it enough to just machine the outer diameter? By the way, what was the outer diameter originally?
14-03-2004, 10:52 AM
#113
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Building a gearbox in Markyate
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No welding is necessary.
The new bearing is actually 55x27.5x15, with the standard shaft being 27.5.
The original OD is (from memory as I'm at home) 52mm.
The bodge-up bearing is 52?x25x14?, which means you have to turn the mainshaft down to fit. That is where the trouble starts, i.e. the mainshaft snaps!
Re-conditioners use this method because it "gives a new life" to an otherwise fooked mainshaft.
Adam, any further progress?
The new bearing is actually 55x27.5x15, with the standard shaft being 27.5.
The original OD is (from memory as I'm at home) 52mm.
The bodge-up bearing is 52?x25x14?, which means you have to turn the mainshaft down to fit. That is where the trouble starts, i.e. the mainshaft snaps!
Re-conditioners use this method because it "gives a new life" to an otherwise fooked mainshaft.
Adam, any further progress?
04-04-2004, 02:16 PM
#115
Ex Ford Man
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2003
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 6,725
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
At last.........a little progress...........
Got my gearbox machined for the bigger bearing........
Big bearing fitted....
New mainshaft in.......
Now i can't get the fooking top bearing off the mainshaft
Got my gearbox machined for the bigger bearing........
Big bearing fitted....
New mainshaft in.......
Now i can't get the fooking top bearing off the mainshaft
07-04-2004, 03:13 PM
#120
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Nice one Gearboxman , blackRS your well brave you nutter! My mate took his mums Fiesta gearbox apart at college for a project, it was sooooo funny when she drove it away with 2 gears talk about bits left over
, blackRS your well brave you nutter! My mate took his mums Fiesta gearbox apart at college for a project, it was sooooo funny when she drove it away with 2 gears talk about bits left over