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Old 10-03-2014, 05:54 PM
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I am the proud owner of a 1.3 MK4 fiesta and i am going to put an 1.7 puma engine in it. Firstly my fiesta is a 1997 model and i'm unsure of the puma engine year how ever i have both looms and the ECU and key. the engine comes complete with everything bar a manifold which i have already sourced.

So what i'm trying to ask is will i have or should i expect any problems while tackling this job, i will be starting it on Friday and hoping to have it on the road for Sunday.

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Hi just thought id update you guys, well after having no feedback on my question i still went a head with the conversion, so yesterday we managed to get the old engine out and test fit the new one, the only thing we have had to change is the driver side engine mount and the injector wiring, we had to use the injector wiring form the previous engine, but we managed to get it running, so hope fully it will be on the road by tonight.

pictures will be up soon
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Sounds good. Get some pics posted up.
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Sounds nice, as above, get some pics up!
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So got it all transplanted over and low and be hold the key didn't match the ecu so got another ecu with locks and all coming on Thursday so that will be that done but, i'm going to strip the bay wiring harness out tomorrow to clean it up a little as it looks a mess.

i have ordered some lovely custom hoses for it as i manged to bodge some together for now but cant stand the sight of them.

also i fired her up on the 1.3 ecu and it ran shitty obviously but then i tried to start it the next day and no luck so took the plugs out and they were soaked in oil i think the cam cover is leaking and then seeping in to the cylinders, new plugs in and cleaned the head up and all was okay.

the ecu i have coming is supposed to be already mapped to 135bhp so would i be stupid if i put an original puma manifold a exhaust system on? i might just buy the DEcat manifold for it the get a custom stainless steel system done by longlife...

How do you upload the images lol
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Default Dash for sale

I am selling the MK5 dash that i got with the car if anyone is interested

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You need to be a gold member to sell on here


How you getting on have you got it running yet?
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My bad, lets say i'm just advertising :P

Well got the engine bay loom all switched over and im waiting on the ECU turning up tomorrow then she will be on the road i hope. got it booked in to get a full stainless system
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Do you reckon it will fire up when you fit the new ecu,stick some pics up when you get a mo im in the process of dropping a puma lump in my mk4 ( cjeck out my thread)
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will do, how do you upload pics??
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You need a photo bucket account the copy and paste the img code
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There she is in all her 1.3 glory

Standard motor



Got more photos but the cards down the garage
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Looks good how mine looked at the start lol, the dash you got for sale I would put it in the mk4 as the a better colour black not grey that what iv done
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I would like to keep the interior all matching for now tho, thought about it..

Im going to get another fiesta soon so i can properly begin to work on this car got big ideas for this car just hoping they follow through
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Cool. I hope it all goes to plan.
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New ECU

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So after getting my ECU i headed down to the garage and well i put the ECU in and changed the transponders over but nothing the red led flashes its tits off so i then changed the receiver ring over buts still nothing....

so i changed the engine loom over but now i have to change the dash over as well because of thesse plugs.

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so its guna be a pain but i need help with a few of thesse plugs, are thesse all for the rad because im going to put the rad on switch in the car...

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Any one got any tips on removing the dash?
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Did you change over the glads chip (inside the key) as for the dash board it quiye easy really start off with removing 3 screw at the top near windscreen,
Then where your main heater blowers are middle to the right behind a tringle cover theres a screw .
Then where the dials are the a 2 above there, then you need to remove the steering cowling and at the bottom theres a 10mm bolt remove this. Then under the centw console theres two torq bolts. Then lastly remove the end csps off dash and theres 2 bolts each side then you can remove the dash
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Yeah under the red tab?
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yeah thats the one
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yeah didnt do anything
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Sorry are we talking about the glass chip
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yeah its under the red tab
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Dunno what else it can be it quite simple to do so rhe gotta be a prob some where
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well see tomorrow ill sort the dash out
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I thought these conversions were soposed to be easy. It sounds like your having a nightmare.
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yeahp any one near swansea on here that has any experience?
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Hey man did u start with the same kind of puma and fiesta ie u get both digital and analog I think that u have got them mixed up as when I done mine it was just plug and play I'll sort out a list of wot I used when I done mine its still up my unit
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yeah im switching it all to digital
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if your going digital it you'll need to virtually change to entire loom of the car to get it to work properly, you will be better of staying analogue, do you have a digital puma engine loom or analogue?
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Its not that hard to sort out lol
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Is everything earth properly?Check the connections and make sure you haven't plugged anything into some where else by accident.Are you 100% sure the key you got matches the ECU and receiver?Its 3 wires from the receiver 2 go to ECU and one goes to the OBD2 connector in passenger kick panel.Also check the fuel cut off switch.Does the fuel pump prime?Are you getting voltage to the pump?Check the fuses in the external fuse box and check the Puma wiring for dodgy connections or breaks in the wiring.Try taping the key or chip to the ecu and see if it works that way as well.Also try disconnecting the battery and see if it resets its self.
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Right so changed the dash over and now the imobiliser is all sorted but there is no power going to the fuel pump or back lights?? Any ideas, there was a few connected that did match up so do I just match the wires??
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I read somewhere there a plug they can mistakenly plug into the wrong socket that sort the rear lights Sorry cant be more help
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Originally Posted by jasonz91
Right so changed the dash over and now the imobiliser is all sorted but there is no power going to the fuel pump or back lights?? Any ideas, there was a few connected that did match up so do I just match the wires??
You must have some thing plugged in the wrong place
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Right so there's no power going to any of the lights or wipers, there is just a clicking sound coming from the fuse boxes.

I have this plug coming from the firewall

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And these 2 coming form the dash
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