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Old 02-12-2012, 08:43 PM
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Nice project, good luck with the rebuild James
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Default ***g88*** sapph cos rebuild ***update 30/12/12

well chaps as the new year is just upon us its time i got the finger out and got going on the rebuild of the saff.

big shout to........... rscos[pat on here]

for lending me his brandnew rolloverjig so i could get the floor sorted out .tbh i had lost a bit of interest lying on the floor getting shit allover me cleaning the underside and at 45 it was hard to get in and out all the time lol

anyway friday i picked up the jig off pat and at 11pm i had it together and chasis mounting points fixed .yesterday evening i got it turned up on its side and i have to admit i was shitting a brick turing it over ,but all went well .today i have spent the day with tow paint brushes a ton of rags and a gallon of petrol cleaning off 23 years of gunk and thankfully waxoil .im glad to report that the floor is as good as new with only a couple of small scabs of surface rust .
heres a cou[ple of pics of progress over the last couple of days






tomorow i plan cleaning the rest off and then its decision time on how to refinish it ,although its nice and original it looks like ford just threw paint /underseal at it so i think i am going to paint it in diamond white as i have to repaint the engine bay too and weld up all the unnessacry holes in the inner wings .i will remove the battery tray too as the battery is goin to the boot .
the engine bay loom has being untapped and new wiring will be brought to the altenater and fans and thelight loom will be checked over and rerouted out of the engine bay ,also the coil wiring will be rerouted from the ignition .

anway its time to get moving on this and get it completed this year


ps sorry jim its taking so long mate lol

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Old 30-12-2012, 09:27 PM
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This is great James ! The sooner you get on t he sooner it's finished lol
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no more excuses jay
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Needs to be an o.e finish under there IMO.. I personally wouldn't be moving the battery tray either.. The appeal of G88 is/was its such an original untouched car inside and out with possibly the best bolt on mods
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max,dont start frying my head now

if i was putting the car back to standard i would consider it max ,but being modified i want to run the theme throughout the car ,and as for the battery i just hate the way its sits and the wiring .everything just looks squashed in .moving the battery is something that can be reversed at some stage in the future should anything change .
Old 30-12-2012, 11:17 PM
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Good work James.
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Originally Posted by james kiely
max,dont start frying my head now

if i was putting the car back to standard i would consider it max ,but being modified i want to run the theme throughout the car ,and as for the battery i just hate the way its sits and the wiring .everything just looks squashed in .moving the battery is something that can be reversed at some stage in the future should anything change .
LOL.. That is what made G88 stand out though immaculate low mileage car.. Which others couldn't compare to.. For me doing the things your suggesting make it just like all the others.. Look at tarrens for a bit of inspiration... Looking at those underside pics I'd be tempted to just re-wax oil it..
Old 31-12-2012, 07:46 AM
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And looking at those underside pics again on a full size monitor,, I deffo wouldn't repaint it!
Old 31-12-2012, 08:48 AM
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Lovely shell under there mate, I know where max is coming from but speaking with a little bit of bias I love pure white like mine looks soo fresh

Deff wouldn't move battery though, wiring can be tidied up and with a jacket look neat
Old 31-12-2012, 09:30 AM
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Do it just like it is mate the way ford made it
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Lovely shell under there mate, I know where max is coming from but speaking with a little bit of bias I love pure white like mine looks soo fresh

Deff wouldn't move battery though, wiring can be tidied up and with a jacket look neat
I like the pure white too,, I just wouldn't do it on this car.. If I was refinishing it, it would be like it is now,, with the black splashes etc

To give an example was my escort,, modified low mileage... I had a the underside refinished in areas,, then re waxoiled... I wanted it to look like no one had been under there,, and not be too clean I was under it cleaning itevery time I used it,,, that I suspect you will be



Rear beams with pdi stamping,, paint splashes from factory etc.. That imo is was G88 needs




Originally Posted by carlo
Do it just like it is mate the way ford made it
This man talks sense

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Old 31-12-2012, 09:49 AM
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Agreed, that looks lovely but it looks like every other clean example, It come across to me that James wants to make this very special, and going through the whole shell no bars held says special to me, b we all have our own opinion

Ps your right I won't want to use mine too much, dry weather only
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Originally Posted by maxest
Needs to be an o.e finish under there IMO.. I personally wouldn't be moving the battery tray either.. The appeal of G88 is/was its such an original untouched car inside and out with possibly the best bolt on mods

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Sorry James I could not put it any better myself, Why do you want to move the battery mate?

Cracking work and sure your have it done in no time

Look forward to more updates!

Tarren
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Agreed, that looks lovely but it looks like every other clean example, It come across to me that James wants to make this very special, and going through the whole shell no bars held says special to me, b we all have our own opinion

Ps your right I won't want to use mine too much, dry weather only
There's so few with the original patina of G88... painted undersides etc can be replicated and seen time and time again... When I owned G88, the paint was 90% original, interior totally untouched and as new,, with just the best bolt on modifications... I can count on one hand similar "clean examples",, it could have been if Ford had built it themselves and what set G88 apart from all the others
Old 31-12-2012, 09:59 AM
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Sorry James ignore me just re read above: ie moving the battey

Its me getting old see
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Originally Posted by Sticky.
Good work James.

thanks paul
Originally Posted by fezzajsy
cheers mate

Originally Posted by J1mbo
Lovely shell under there mate, I know where max is coming from but speaking with a little bit of bias I love pure white like mine looks soo fresh

thanks jimbo,i do love how fresh the white looks on yours mate

Deff wouldn't move battery though, wiring can be tidied up and with a jacket look neat
battery is definatley going though

Originally Posted by carlo
Do it just like it is mate the way ford made it
carlo,if fords accountants werent so bloody tight the floor would probably been finished better than they did ,

but point taken mate lol
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If it was going to be 207bhp with standard wheels then I would do the same, like my car for example, it was never going to be standard so why have the under side colour scheme the only totally standard part, anyway thats my view we could go on all day pros and cons etc
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Originally Posted by maxest
I like the pure white too,, I just wouldn't do it on this car.. If I was refinishing it, it would be like it is now,, with the black splashes etc

To give an example was my escort,, modified low mileage... I had a the underside refinished in areas,, then re waxoiled... I wanted it to look like no one had been under there,, and not be too clean I was under it cleaning itevery time I used it,,, that I suspect you will be



Rear beams with pdi stamping,, paint splashes from factory etc.. That imo is was G88 needs






This man talks sense
Originally Posted by maxest
And looking at those underside pics again on a full size monitor,, I deffo wouldn't repaint it!


max ,i promise i will give it some serious thought lol,and i fully understandand appreciate where you are coming from .
Old 31-12-2012, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tarren
+ 1

Sorry James I could not put it any better myself, Why do you want to move the battery mate?

Cracking work and sure your have it done in no time

Look forward to more updates!

Tarren
tarrren if it gets close to your car when its finished i will be a happy man

Originally Posted by Tarren
Sorry James ignore me just re read above: ie moving the battey

Its me getting old see
not as old as me mate ,i want to get oil breather ,coilpacks etc in nice and tidy where the battery sits,and that bloody wiring gets between me and my sleep lol
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Originally Posted by maxest
There's so few with the original patina of G88... painted undersides etc can be replicated and seen time and time again... When I owned G88, the paint was 90% original, interior totally untouched and as new,, with just the best bolt on modifications... I can count on one hand similar "clean examples",, it could have been if Ford had built it themselves and what set G88 apart from all the others
Originally Posted by J1mbo
If it was going to be 207bhp with standard wheels then I would do the same, like my car for example, it was never going to be standard so why have the under side colour scheme the only totally standard part, anyway thats my view we could go on all day pros and cons etc

this is where the problem lies ,theirs pros and cons on both sides .


thanks for the input lads
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Originally Posted by james kiely
max ,i promise i will give it some serious thought lol,and i fully understandand appreciate where you are coming from .
LOL I've read my messages back and I know I sound like a broken record LOL,, just ask why G88 appealed to you so much,, why so many have approached you to sell it, including 3 of its previous owners that I know of! There's so few like it...


Originally Posted by james kiely

,i want to get oil breather ,coilpacks etc in nice and tidy where the battery sits,and that bloody wiring gets between me and my sleep lol
Thats a relief and will be a nice touch,, I read it that you were cutting the battery tray out
Old 31-12-2012, 10:27 AM
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not atall max ,i do appreciate all input mate

i actually bought g88 over the phone off mark without even seeing the car ,from reading posts on here about the car.

i have had a few people wanting to buy the car max,and the reason i never sold it is the same reason i bought it if that makes sense lol
Old 31-12-2012, 10:40 AM
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James. Please don't put battery in boot. Leave it o/e looking. Such a beautiful car shouldn't be molested. If you want a good breather that ain't on show or in the way for a Wrc breather like my Escos has.

If you do I'll boycott this thread!!!!
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Originally Posted by AJC

If you do I'll boycott this thread!!!!

Real Tears
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ah andy ,dont be like that lol

battery is definatley going out of site mate ,i f$%kin hate it .

i want the engine bay as decluttered as i can make it andy as everything looks to me like it was thrown at the car,so a bit of reorganisation wont go astray .afterall its nothing that cant be changed back in the future


what do you think about the floor andy?

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Originally Posted by Tarren
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andy wouldnt do that to me tarren
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Last post ever!

Cars mint mate. Floor looks superb

Ill give you Ł20 and a king size mars bar for it if you deliver.


P.s don't expect a reply
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but should i paint it andy or leave as is mate ?


i dont like mars bars
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This is AJC on max's log in... leave the floors



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this is aj on james ,s log in


i want a white saff































sorry andy lol
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So what colour you doing the floor James
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Personally I wouldn't be moving batteries either

You can still fit the coilpack etc up beside the battery anyway? That's where I fitted Mark's coilpack and dual ignition amps? I'll be moving mine too when I can be bothered

As for the underside, I'm with the don't paint it crew It looks mint the way it is!
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The floor looks great James, great progress mate, must be so much less hassle on a spit!!

If I ever do another it will done the same way, too old for crawling about on my back now lol.

Karl
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Personally I wouldn't be moving batteries either

You can still fit the coilpack etc up beside the battery anyway? That's where I fitted Mark's coilpack and dual ignition amps? I'll be moving mine too when I can be bothered

As for the underside, I'm with the don't paint it crew It looks mint the way it is!


Amen Paul

James is getting out numbered

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Got to agree with max

Standards the new modified leave it as it is , you cant buy originality
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Originally Posted by Tarren
So what colour you doing the floor James
still undecide mate

Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Personally I wouldn't be moving batteries either

You can still fit the coilpack etc up beside the battery anyway? That's where I fitted Mark's coilpack and dual ignition amps? I'll be moving mine too when I can be bothered

As for the underside, I'm with the don't paint it crew It looks mint the way it is!
paul, am considering the floor but the battery is a goner for sure

Originally Posted by sapph1
The floor looks great James, great progress mate, must be so much less hassle on a spit!!

If I ever do another it will done the same way, too old for crawling about on my back now lol.

Karl

cheers karl,tbh its one of the reasons it was taking me so long ,crawling around on your back on a cold floor aint for me mate

Originally Posted by Tarren
Amen Paul

James is getting out numbered



Tarren
its looking that way mate

Originally Posted by fordrs2005
Got to agree with max

Standards the new modified leave it as it is , you cant buy originality
i am always up for originality ,and as i sniff the petrol as i take the waxoil off i am thinking about it lol
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Cracking work James ,
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You didn't think you'd get away with more than a day without me tracking down your updates.

SO GOOD, to see that the rebuild is now fully underway. Looks like those 16 years of keeping it in a nice heated garage, and three days of getting covered in Waxoyl really did pay off. That floor looks exactly like it did when I bought the car in 1991 when she was just three years old. PERSONALLY - I'd just clean it up and touch up where necessary, leaving it as original as possible to the eye.

Battery - Undecided ! ! ! ! I like you love things looking clean and minimal, so totally see where your coming from.

Meanwhile, I'm so looking forward to seeing the updates.


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