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Old 21-06-2017, 05:41 PM
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I definitely don't have to worry about stereo or sat Mac in mine lol
Old 21-06-2017, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Could you not go closer ratio and get 6 or 7 speed in there, I love the idea of banging through the gears with a tiny drop in revs, it would be like a super bike.

For how I use my Pug, I think I could have put up with the noise and chunterring behaviour of sequential but don't know if would have ruined it as a road car? I can listen to music and sat nav in mine at the moment.
Mine is a road car an straight cut box never gets boring an can
Turn the tunes up other wise
Old 21-06-2017, 06:24 PM
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Exactly, maybe I should have done it?
Old 21-06-2017, 06:25 PM
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Can PSG build up the full box for you?
Old 21-06-2017, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
No need if you have a good powerband, its not a normally aspirated. Changing gear is time lost.
I get what you are saying. I have pretty close ratio oppliger box and a wide slug of torque but I could easily squeeze in more gears and the change time is hardly long, hence the benefit of sequential, I bet a good 7 speed with flat shift could do all 7 in the time I do 5 on my oppliger long box, even with the 500ftlb of torque that I have.

Not totally necessary but then half the stuff we bolt on our road cars is just cos we can...I doubt I really need all the stuff I already have.
Old 21-06-2017, 10:03 PM
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Yes PGS can build the full box and that's probably what I will get them to do, send them the transfer and everything maybe depending on shipping costs


What's the ratio's on your oppliger box mate?
Old 21-06-2017, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I get what you are saying. I have pretty close ratio oppliger box and a wide slug of torque but I could easily squeeze in more gears and the change time is hardly long, hence the benefit of sequential, I bet a good 7 speed with flat shift could do all 7 in the time I do 5 on my oppliger long box, even with the 500ftlb of torque that I have.

Not totally necessary but then half the stuff we bolt on our road cars is just cos we can...I doubt I really need all the stuff I already have.
Years ago due to the narrow power bands more gears were needed to keep the engine on song, the FFD 7speed a classic of the era, when better turbo boost thresholds became the norm the manufacturer reduced the number of gears, Peugeot running the 5speed in the 206 wrc was a first, they had the torque to pull longer ratios.

Road cars have 6+ for cruise/economy.

I don't put anything i don't need on any of my cars 😉
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Old 22-06-2017, 08:46 AM
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Am I right in thinking that some of the later Focus WRC cars tested a four speed box? I've heard a rumour but never actually seen one.
Old 22-06-2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by M K
Yes PGS can build the full box and that's probably what I will get them to do, send them the transfer and everything maybe depending on shipping costs


What's the ratio's on your oppliger box mate?
I will try and find the email with them on mate, it is the close ratio long box, I think 1st is the same or longer and then tightly stacked (ish) 2nd, 3rd and 4th with a normal ish 5th. I am on 3.9 diffs and 16 inch wheels so I tend to get top speed of 150mph at 7,500 or around 20mph per 1000 revs in 5th so quite a bit lower than a standard cossie setup.
Old 22-06-2017, 12:02 PM
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I believe these are correct:

Street-Race Ratio
1st gear is 21% higher than the standard ratio

1st-3.01
2nd-1.98
3rd-1.33
4th-1.1
5th 0.825 or 5% longer-0.779
Old 27-06-2017, 10:29 AM
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So the skyline sequential is a slightly closer ratio box, surprised by that

Done a few more little jobs

Brake and clutch system drained and re filled with Performance Friction 665 fluid as I wasn't keen on the stuff I'd been using previously

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Made up some front brake cooling ducts, not sure if these are really needed yet but made them anyway while I had the time and they weigh literally nothing so can stay disconnected if the brake discs aren't getting hot enough to warren them, will get some disc temp paint on the discs before next track day to see where we are at

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Neoprene ducting to go to front bumper is on order and will be fitted and positioned later


Aslso I been meaning to make up a turbo hanger for a while that clears my coil on plug set up so slightly different to standard so started on that

Machined up the standoffs and rose joint boss, just need to make up the bracket for the turbo housing and wait for the rose joint before I can see exactly where I want the support to be positioned

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Will crack on with that later this week
Old 27-06-2017, 10:32 AM
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Also if anybody has the front casing for sale cheap for a 4x4 cossie box in the Essex area I'm interested,

Can be a whole box but has to be pennies as I only want it for the bellhousing section and the rest will be binned

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Old 27-06-2017, 11:00 AM
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Looks good and I like the brake cooling ducts, please keep the template in case you ever get round to making a set to sell? I believe my hubs are the same as yours.

I would need to check they would fit within my wheels at the angle they work at.
Old 27-06-2017, 11:58 AM
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Hi Toby

The brake ducts size and angle is dictated by the inner and outer diameter of the discs so would be made to suit
Old 27-06-2017, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by M K
Hi Toby

The brake ducts size and angle is dictated by the inner and outer diameter of the discs so would be made to suit

Ah, makes sense.
Old 30-06-2017, 09:14 PM
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Unfortunately all the photo's linked to this thread have been blocked by PhotoBucket due to exceeding 3rd party hosting limits and if i want to remove the limit i will have to pay $400 a year

This wont be happening so this 7 year thread now has no photo's


Thanks
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Old 30-06-2017, 09:39 PM
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So sad mate , what a bunch of cunts photobucket are.
All your hard work gone , I loved seeing your updates etc .
Well that's most of the build pages gone on passionford then

Hope you continue your updates mate

Cheers paul
Old 01-07-2017, 04:49 AM
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Time to switch to the cloud Photobucket has gone to shit lately anyhow. i think i will upload all my pics from photonucket back to a drive
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Originally Posted by M K
Unfortunately all the photo's linked to this thread have been blocked by PhotoBucket due to exceeding 3rd party hosting limits and if i want to remove the limit i will have to pay $400 a year

This wont be happening so this 7 year thread now has no photo's


Thanks
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I've just found this out also.. WTF! I used to even go back over my own thread so I could remember what I'd done! Let alone going through this one and others too.

Whats the alternative?

It would take days and weeks to re-link all the photos to this thread
Old 03-07-2017, 09:22 PM
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Me thread got deleted by a mod (doing work like your self ) bummer losing your photos isn't it
Old 04-07-2017, 07:06 AM
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Sorry if I'm stating the obvious but you can still get to the images of this thread by right clicking and opening the image, it just takes you to photobucket.
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Yeah that does work just most people won't bother, and I've found it wouldn't work on all pictures

The puma is looking well mate, definitely fit the spoiler I say
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Can you pay 1 month of 40 and then save all the pics then cancel
Old 05-07-2017, 04:12 AM
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Shit news mate I hope you can sort some thing out
Old 05-07-2017, 07:34 AM
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Hi mate its a fantastic Fiesta

How do you find the turbo with the .82 housing on the road and track cheers
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Do you still need a spare 4x4 gearbox?
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Hi

I have sorted one now but would take another broken one for the bit of case but only if it's scrap money really mate

Thanks
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Relocated the power steering pump to the front bumper bars as part of complying with MSA regs

Also means a bit less noise in the car and being able to run less hose etc



Bracket needs to come off to be trimmed up still and painted but you get the idea


Also completed my spare skyline/cossie box conversion ready for a sequential set up at the start of next year

































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Old 05-08-2017, 10:31 AM
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Should have binned the EPAS mate, will be no good for the sprinting, will lock up when trying to turn fast.
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Nice job on the bellhousing....I like seeing it spinning in the lathe....not sure my Super 7 would cope lol.

Markk...do you think the epas pump will not keep up with super fast steering inputs then? Is that what you mean by the lock up? I would have thought the manufacturers would have over engineered that in to it? I assume this is a corsa type setup? I only ask as I would one day like to swap to that sort of setup for the road and would do this with a Wrc style front subframe and add the non pas rack from a Sierra.
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Nice job on the bellhousing....I like seeing it spinning in the lathe....not sure my Super 7 would cope lol.

Markk...do you think the epas pump will not keep up with super fast steering inputs then? Is that what you mean by the lock up? I would have thought the manufacturers would have over engineered that in to it? I assume this is a corsa type setup? I only ask as I would one day like to swap to that sort of setup for the road and would do this with a Wrc style front subframe and add the non pas rack from a Sierra.

Not that I don't think, I know it won't.

Been there done that on both EPAS Electro-hydraulic and on Corsa electric column.

The ratio of the Cossy racks, the extra huge wheels we put on, the sticky rubber plus the extra weight of the car, they just cannot cope. The system will baulk if you try to turn from left to right or vice versa very quickly and lock out the steering.

I have gone by to hydraulic but with mods to the rack flow and a much higher pressure pump.

On my last event I had just the Corsa system, I lost around 4 seconds at each chicane junction, times that by around 12 junctions before you need to bring it out of big sideways and find your steering locked (or it feels locked without PAS)
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Originally Posted by markk
Should have binned the EPAS mate, will be no good for the sprinting, will lock up when trying to turn fast.
Hi Mark

I don't have a lot of choice! I can't run the standard style as there's no room for the pump under the inlet now and as you say I've heard the corsa style can be notchy

The DC electronics set up is meant to be the best but that's a lot of changing round for me to fit a column set up and they are about Ł1800
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Originally Posted by M K
Hi Mark

I don't have a lot of choice! I can't run the standard style as there's no room for the pump under the inlet now and as you say I've heard the corsa style can be notchy

The DC electronics set up is meant to be the best but that's a lot of changing round for me to fit a column set up and they are about Ł1800
I want able to mount in std position, made bracket, move position for non ford hydraulic pump, job jobbed.

You will do it when you have to.
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Any pics of your pump mate or what 1 it is?
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Originally Posted by M K
Any pics of your pump mate or what 1 it is?
its a vw with a Renault alloy replacement pulley on a fabricated bracket mounting it lower than the std item
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Lots of the MK2 Escort boys seem to run the Corsa gear. How do they get round it?
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Lots of the MK2 Escort boys seem to run the Corsa gear. How do they get round it?
lower ratio, smaller wheels and less weight.
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Yesterday the car had a big job...........

Wedding car for me & my best man











Best day ever and so lucky to have such a beautiful wife


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Old 13-08-2017, 07:50 PM
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Congratulations to you both! You're punching above your weight there mate.
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Congratulations to the two of you I hope the day went all to plan . Stunning looking lady you have there mate .
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